Posts by Nathan Natas

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LIES, DAMN LIES, AND APOSTATES- Part II A Message To Mr. Fearon of The Sex Screens

by PublishingCult in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjqlnyqhyu4.

Nathan Natas

OK, who's next?

XJWs who became - or went back to - the Roman catholic Church?

XJWs who have accepted as true the teaching of the TRINTIY?

XJWs who have turned to WICCA?

XJWs who have turned to Judaism. Islam, Buddhism or Hinduism?

XJWs who have joined flying saucer cults?

Who is next on your hit list of "righteous indignation"?

Where is YOUR site, where truth and accurate knowlegde can be found?

THE WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY is the enemy, not Rick!

As for your voice, yes it is professional and sounds good, but:

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a sounding [piece of] brass or a clashing cymbal."

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I'm Starting To Understand Atheist and Evolution

by Philadelphia Ponos in

for many years i was sincerely perplexed when someone told me they believed in the evolution theory or were an atheist.

i never understood how someone could ignore all the evidence for intelligent design and overlook all the holes in the evolution theory.

for example, the human biology clock is synced with the rotation of the earth, the earth is the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life, the earth has an ozone layer to protect us from the sun's radiation, the earth naturally produces fruits and vegetables to be used for food, our bodies produce enzymes to break down the fruits and vegetables so it can nourish us, the earth produces water and oxygen, etc.

Nathan Natas

Do you enjoy dressing up in Victorian Fashions as much as you enjoy thinking in Victorian paradigms?

Have no fear; when you enter your teen age years and begin to acquire a little experience in the world, your mind will begin to function more competently.

In the meantime, you might find it beneficial to study the many kinds of parasites that exist and how wonderfully they fit into Our Designer's Grand Plan.

When hydrogen atoms are subjected to sufficient pressure and temperature, they begin to fuse into helium. This process of fusion and the process of radioactive decay combine to give us all the elements that exist. When certain elements are brought together in the right circumstances, life arises, and if life endures long enough, self-awareness and intelligence result. All this happens without the intervention of Your Grandpa In The Sky; it is a purely MECHANICAL process, like a rock rolling down a hill, but far more complex and thus far more rare.

I am convinced that we will discover life on at least one of the moons of Jupiter, if nowhere else in our solar system. I understand chemistry, geology and biology. "Survival of the fittest" is another way of saying "poorly adapted life-forms die out sooner." The ones that live aren't BLESSED, they're LUCKY.

We have only just begun to look. To say that there are thousands of planets with no life on them is ridiculous - we haven't really looked at them yet. There are billions and billions of stars in our cosmos, and some of them will have a piece of rock orbiting "at just the right distance" with "just the right temperature" and "just enough water" for life to arise. It will likely be carbon-based life, because carbon is uniquely qualified to support lifeforms, but it may well look like something we have never imagined. I wonder if it will be superstitious too?

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Older Guys: did you pioneer during 'Nam?

by compound complex in

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did you receive a 4-d classification readily?.

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Nathan Natas

Yes, Viola, the local draft boards were staffed by local CIVILIANS, not elected or appointed politicians. They reflected the values of their area. Thus, a draft board in Utah might be lenient toward Mormons but harsh on Dubs - as I know from one man's experience they were. The guys in New York were more liberal in their decision-making, since they had a wider spectrum of conscientious beliefs to deal it. I really think, looking back, that they wanted to determine a person's sincerity, not pass judgement on their church.

Even if the guys on the draft board did once serve in the Armed Forces, they were no longer working for the military. Many people who have had "the military experience" were opposed to the war in Vietnam. Some decorated veterans of 'Nam have said they would advise any young man in a draft situation to head to Canada.

The WTB&TS put many young men in a position of appearing DEFIANT of the Draft Boards and the US government because of the "hard line" stand the WTB&TS insisted these boys take. Ultimately, we're talking about kids here who are just trying to do what they were told was right, whether they chose to serve, volunteer for alternative duty, or "resist" and go to prison.

I don't have much respect for the guys who fled to Canada, because their actions showed they had no "courage of conviction" but were looking for the easy way out. Some may disagree with me, but to me they lacked the brains to maintain a scholastic deferment and lacked the willingness to accept even alternative duty. They skipped out. Eventually, they all got pardoned while those who served in the field or in alternative duty or in prison gave up some of their lives for their country.

Looks like the draft might be coming back. Wonder what will happen this time around?

By the way, the wiki article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States is pretty good.

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Older Guys: did you pioneer during 'Nam?

by compound complex in

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did you receive a 4-d classification readily?.

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Nathan Natas

Terry said, "We were like pieces on a game board. Somebody else was playing a game. We just marked who was winning and losing."

WE were pawns, of course - those before us for Rutherford and we for Knorr, no argument here.

But through the years I've worked with a bunch of guys who were in 'Nam, and they feel precisely the same way, except that they can name the game-player in their case - Robert Strange McNamara, US Secretary of Defense under Kennedy and Johnson. Lots of guys were very pleased when he died in 2009, and cursed him in his dying (as we now curse the WTB&TS leadership when they die).

There have been times I've thought that if I had it to do over again, I'd join the military rather than pioneer.

How many of you old guys remember this group? They were not Dubs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MiODsMY30

"Beaucoup dinky dao Dubs"

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Older Guys: did you pioneer during 'Nam?

by compound complex in

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did you receive a 4-d classification readily?.

cc.

Nathan Natas

Yeah, I was in Laos and Cambodia, eatin' snakes and leaving Watchtower and Awake! magazines in laundromats.

No, not really. I pioneered in NYC and was an MS. My draft board gave me my ministerial deferment because I was a bit more articulate than others my age. I didn't expect to be defered - I expected to go to prison, and it bothers me a bit (not a bunch, but a bit) that gus who were no less sincere than I and no less articulate did not get their deferments. Each Draft Board was different. Mine were pretty liberal, I suppose.

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Are women more spiritual then men?

by jam in

before you women jump all over me, this is just a observation.. first of all at least in this country women out number men in religion,.

across the board,(jw,s,baptist, catholic etc.

) you walk in any church.

Nathan Natas

Women are quite often less logical and more emotional in their cognition than men are.

If that's "being spiritual," so be it.

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Issuing a challenge to Jehvoah's Witnesses everywhere

by Terry in

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now is the time (to quote an old kingdom song)..... to challenge jw's everywhere who are pointing to the "difficult times hard to deal with" in the news around the world.

and declaring armageddon is absolutely, positively nigh.. for one thing, they always point to something somewhere, don't they?.

and whatever it is---absolutely means time is short.. but, it is the usual nonsense, bullshit, poppycock over-statement, exaggeration and hype.. call them on it this time!.

Nathan Natas

This is a GREAT idea, Terry!

I was going to suggest posting public messages in the RANTS AND RAVES section of your city's CRAIGSLIST, but upon checking the terms of use for CRAIGLIST I found that any language against a religion was forbidden.

So we have to do it one-on-one and face-to-face. So be it!

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I Do Believe in Armageddon!

by Was New Boy in

not the same one that the jehovah witnesses believe in.

none the less major earth changes leading up to 2012.. events where 80%+ of the earth's population is going away!.

i was asked just "what have i been doing the last 2 years.

Nathan Natas

Boy, are you going to be disappointed -- again.

Got plans foor 2013?

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JWs pronounce the popular version of Gods name

by Alfred in

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

Nathan Natas

I heard the whisperings of an angel...

the rap tetragrammaton is YO HE YO MOMMAHO

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JWs pronounce the popular version of Gods name

by Alfred in

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

Nathan Natas

I believe his rap name is "Je-hizzle".

Is that right?

What's the hand sign? I can suggest one...